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Michael Dixon, Tesco Corporate Affairs manager
"Having listened to local people and altered the plans accordingly, we think people will agree that our revised proposals are ideal for this part of Harrogate." |
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Richie Malloy and Dave Burns of the
“No To Tesco” group.
"A new Tesco store would aim to bring in custom from a wide area, much of which would be by car."
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"We've made some important changes to the proposals to provide a store more in keeping with the area, as well as incorporating a host of sustainability measures.
"The north side of Harrogate is not well served by supermarkets and many residents have to travel across the town to do their weekly shop. This creates cross-town traffic which we can reduce with a store in New Park.
"As well as providing supermarket shopping close to home, the store will create over 360 jobs for local people, with excellent training and career development opportunities. We're also clearing up an eyesore, rejuvenating the Oak Beck and bringing a public footpath back into use.
"Tesco is proud of its ongoing commitment to public consultation and grateful to all residents who have taken the time to share their views.
"Following a thorough review of all feedback received from residents, and further discussions with Harrogate Borough Council, Tesco has made important changes to the proposals.
"The new proposals are for an environmental format store, which makes use of leading-edge technologies to reduce energy consumption, waste and artificial lighting. Another change is the reduction of the retail floor space by 25 per cent to better meet the current needs of this part of town.
"Responses to date have been positive; the majority of feedback forms are in favour of the store and our revised proposals. Residents are looking forward to the site being redeveloped and are happy that their views have been listened to.
"All responses we receive will be collated and reviewed in detail."
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New Park ward member Trevor Chapman said residents nearby were split 50-50 on the plans with many still worried about the impact on traffic congestion, while Miss Diamand, who lives with her two-year-old son in Knox Lane, Bilton, also voiced concerns about the increase in traffic.
She said: “It is already a very busy road and there is so much traffic.
“It is hard to cross the road when I am with my little boy, and a Tesco store will bring in a lot more traffic.
“It is the wrong place for the supermarket and it is not needed. It may not be the mega shop they were proposing before, but it is still a big store.”
Ian Pickering from Electric Avenue, Harrogate, said he was disappointed the basic plan is still the same as when the plan was submitted last year, while Patrick Clarke from Harlow Grange Park said Tesco was not particularly cheap compared to competitors.
Mr Pickering added: "Nothing in the new plans has been done to soften the environmental impact on New Park and its residents, and the traffic problem is now even more critical with the opening of the new Focus.
"Harrogate is already well served by supermarkets and mini marts we do not need any more, and are the 350 jobs on offer to compensate for all the small businesses and their employees who will suffer when/if Tesco get their way and establish themselves in every post code area in England.
"Be it on your heads if they ruin New Park."
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Name:
Administrator |
Date:
31/05/3007 10:41:56 |
Message:
There have been a number of personal insults on the board recently. These kinds of comments are NOT allowed and will be deleted.
If anybody sees a comment that is completely off topic or deliberately insulting to another poster please email: matthew.bowden@ypn.co.uk and it will be swiftly removed. Thank you.
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Richard Wilkins |
Date:
07/02/2010 21:10:20 |
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At the end of last year I confirmed that I would keep informed anyone who was interested in knowing about the progress of Tesco's formal Planning Application.
In December 2009 Tesco had to carry out further work on the submission in respect of retail impact upon the area, traffic analysis and access to and from the site. Well the Planning Department has just confirmed to me that Tesco has just lodged its latest full Planning Application ref: 6.79.7518.C.FULMAJ 09/02704/FULMAJ that is available to be viewed by the public at the Planning Department or at the website www.harrogate.gov.uk/planning and following the link to Public Access.
I for one will be examining the latest proposals before 24 February 2010 (that is the latest date for anyone to lodge objections with the Planning Department) and will post my findings on this website.
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Mickey |
Date:
05/02/2010 09:38:14 |
Message:
Anyone who thinks Tesco sells the same as any other supermarket is completely wrong and obviously hasn't been to a Tesco's. They sell everything, much more than any other supermarket. And no, you can never have enough supermarkets. The more supermarkets we have the more compe***ion there will be amongst them, and that can only be a good thing for customers.
Why all the objection to a Tesco for pete's sake. If you don't like it then don't shop there. Try moaning about something that's worthwhile.
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message for Patricia |
Date:
04/02/2010 17:55:33 |
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Who says so?And why should posters with perfectly valid objections to the store be cyber bullies,it can work both ways you know!Shops arent the be all and end all of life we have got plenty for the size of the town.I think another supermarket selling the same old products as the rest is just boring,apart from the issues of where its sited etc.Another point is that Morrisons and Sainsburys which are both in rsidential areas do not have 24 hr opening I would imagine to cause less noise and disruption to local people.That is my opinion will there be a "cyber bully" out there to comment on it?Dont count your chickens before theyre hatched,Tesco supporters.
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Name:
Patricia Ness |
Date:
03/02/2010 15:40:29 |
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Your all a bunch of cyber bullies, face the facts tesco is coming!
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Name:
clive |
Date:
03/02/2010 09:40:08 |
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It took me ages this morning to get from the gas towers to the Royal Hall. A superstore on the Ripon Rd would just make things impossible.
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Martyn Riseley |
Date:
02/02/2010 11:01:00 |
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I am disgusted that i, a member of harrogate's youth have been repeatedly ridiculed by "Kate" "Phil" and "Bernard" who quite honestly seem less interested in the actual development of a tesco's in my area and more focussed on tearing apart my comment and latching on to my weaknesses.
You should all stop posting and leave the malicious comments out of it!
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Phil and Bernard |
Date:
02/02/2010 10:56:05 |
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We dont know who Kate is - we find it preposterous that you suggest a link between us. Now, back to our tennis match!
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Name:
coolguy123 |
Date:
02/02/2010 10:49:42 |
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im sorry bout my message bfore i was really drunk
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Kate M |
Date:
02/02/2010 10:48:52 |
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I don't understand what you're referring to? I don't know who "Phil" or "Bernard" are and frankly feel that it is grossly off topic to suggest things like that to tarnish my reputation.
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coolguy123 |
Date:
01/02/2010 10:17:40 |
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tesco's is bad for harrogate these are my reasons
its a supermarket that bullies people
we have asda, morrisons, sainsbury and waitrose, Why have tesco?
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joey |
Date:
01/02/2010 10:13:32 |
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NEVER!
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Name:
Brian |
Date:
01/02/2010 10:05:53 |
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To all the people who are against the Tesco store because of the increase of traffic congestion etc. I would like to ask one question. Where do you shop now? Do you all go to the South side of town to Sainsburys and Morrisons? If so, then aren't you causing traffic congestion to all those people living there? Why is that ok and not ok for us to have it in the North side of town?
I live in the Jennyfield area and everyone I know drives to the other side of town to get their groceries. People living in the South side of town would say this isn't fair either. They have to listen to loud lorries delivering goods, they have to put up with all the traffic congestion from all of us who are travelling from the North side of town, and they have to put up with everything else too. So, why is this ok and not ok for us on the North side to have this? Seems to me there are some very selfish people living in the Jennyfields area. Its ok as long as its not on our doorstep - that seems to be the motto for a lot of people living round me near Jennyfield.
Selfish and two faced - that's what they are!
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Sarah.K. |
Date:
29/01/2010 17:42:43 |
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I havent previously entered into this debate as not living near the planned store I didnt feel I could say anything useful about it.But today I visited a relative who lives in the Jennyfield area of Harrogate and took a walk around the area and I just couldnt believe how many houses had been built there, right into the countryside in fact nearly causing the merger of Harrogate and Killinghall!And my host informed me that even more are planned in the future.Now some may say that this relentless expansion one way out of the town is a good reason to have a new superstore there,but in my opinion it would only further detract from the area.
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hm |
Date:
27/01/2010 14:10:40 |
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"phil", "bernard", "kate", you might like to have read tom's message from before christmas ;)
Name:Tom Date: 19/12/2009 02:01:31
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please can people refrain from making several posts and putting them under different aliases.
further:
"phil" said:
"Local businesses nearby would be put out of business because the community has found a 'better' solution."
- thats people voting with their feet and wallets. a good business provides people with what they want, those that dont fail, unles they adapt. sould we artificiall protect a bad business that only gets custom through lack of compe***ion?
he also said "the land could be used for something more aesthetic" and agreed with GA on what could be put there. surely these 'attractions' are just that, they attract people to the area. how do you think peopleget to such attractions? by some sort of star trek teleporter? no they will come by car, causing traffic which will be additional as there will still be plenty of cars going to asda, morrisons etc... at least tesco will diverttraffic from those supermarkets and reduce miles travelled. also, whos' going to pay for the land, build the 'attractions' and run it? us tax payers no doubt... it'll probably turn into a white elephant that local 'yoofs' wil hang out at to go drinking...
as for what bernard said, about the supermarket dstroying the community, it can't have been much of a community in you're area! ( wherever that is ;) ) and how would one more supermarket 'destroy' our community when most of us already shop in them anyway?????????
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26/01/2010 12:38:59 |
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Name:
Phil |
Date:
26/01/2010 10:40:42 |
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I agree with Bernard, the local area of New Park doesnt need to a supermarket to add to the traffic around the roundabout nearby which already suffers from congestion. Yes it would bring jobs but at what price? Local businesses nearby would be put out of business because the community has found a 'better' solution.
Personally i also agree with G.A. on the point that the land could be used for something more aesthetic, people complain about the area being an eyesore so why build a concrete building? I dont see the point, the fact the area would be covered in a colourful selection of used sweet wrappers and crisp packets doesnt comfort me much either.
Martyn what are you talking about? Cant you see that all that Tescos would do is move some of that congestion to the people's doorstep, it would only make it harder to move around.
Overall i think building a Tescos in New Park would cripple the surrounding roads,(and no, rebuilding those roads would not be worth the money being used) and cause problems to the local residents including myself.
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Bernard Mannigan |
Date:
26/01/2010 10:21:16 |
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I have read the debate so far and have to say its refreshing to see local people taking such an interest in their community.
There is however a few issues that i must disagree with - after reading Martyn's post I found myself contradicting him on almost every point.
I dont beleive that people in the areas this man listed are under supplied by supermarkets - they have gotten along alright for all this time so why evoke massive root change now? I remember when a large supermarket chain moved to my area, it destroyed the local community which was washed away by a tidal wave of anti social youths and various plastic packages floating around the concrete jungle carpark.
Also - is it really worth reducing conjestion in town (which frankly i wouldn't rate as that bad anyway) when we would be poisoning these beautiful surrounding areas with dirty great lorries bringing supplies day and night! Imagine how your life will 'improve' after being woken up by the 3am milk delivery for the 17th night in a row!!
Plus there is much evidence to suggest that property values in the area will fall as a result of lack of local amenities and community.
supply trucks
rubbish skips
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Name:
Kate M |
Date:
26/01/2010 09:09:22 |
Message:
Many say that a supermarket is needed to the North of the town but the proposed site is not the ideal place to build one.It would be near two of the busiest roads in Harrogate,and a major roundabout which struggles to cope with the existing flow of traffic without the inevitable influx that would occur with Tesco.Two p***ary schools are nearby,surely the childrens journey to and from school would become more hazardous?It has been suggested that major road improvements would be required should Tesco build here,its difficult to see how that would happen as New Park is a residential area, what are they going to do, pull all the surrounding houses down to make new roads?A further point that im certain many supporters of the store dont realise,the gas holder so many call an eyesore will not be removed from the site so how does that improve it.
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Name:
Martyn Riseley |
Date:
19/01/2010 19:38:08 |
Message:
Do people not realise the North side of Harrogate is not provided with a supermarket? This leaves people from Jennyfields, parts of Bilton, Killinghall, Ripley, Hampsthwaite and Birstwith to travel through (already congested harrogate) to reach the likes of Asda, Morrisons or Sainsburys. Surely the new Tesco would reduce Inner city Congestion?
And as for the issue over altering Skipton road then good! its a bloody mess of a road with pot holes everywhere!
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